Max

What's the largest @White Noise group you're in?
How important even is group size?
What number of members would you want?

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Under this king, there is nothing a man can call his own.

Has anyone played with the @White Noise agent connectors yet?
Is anything missing there or something that can be improved?

I love that @ants.sh now has an android app.
Thanks @Gigi, finally a good native search app!

New @White Noise release is out!
Now much faster and more scapable.
Let's test the next limits, send me your npubs and I'll add you to the community group.
100 members so far!

I want a pager my agent can trigger when done.
Very privacy preserving receiver.

@White Noise is now available on the Google Play Store.
This is for your normie friends only.
Real cypherpunks get it on @Zapstore

Let's see if we can get a @White Noise release out today.

90+
@Max80+!

A useful app can begin with a problem you understand, even before you have years of programming experience or a public developer identity. An open-source agent workflow lets a home laptop handle Android builds while you direct and test from your phone, then share the result under a name you chose.

I gotta put a pause on adding people to the group, my phone can't handle that many groups and isnt successfully inviting others.
We have to unlock the next level of scaling.
Stay tuned, we're hunting for performance bugs right now.
@Max@White Noise android is getting super slow when you have more than 300 groups. It still works, just some actions take forever. We'll ship improvements soon, but for now keep your clients under that scale.

@White Noise android is getting super slow when you have more than 300 groups.
It still works, just some actions take forever.

We'll ship improvements soon, but for now keep your clients under that scale.

80+!
@Max70 members in the largest @White Noise community group. We gotta pump those rookie numbers.

That worked.

70 members in the largest @White Noise community group.
We gotta pump those rookie numbers.

A new @White Noise Android & iOS release is out.

Lots of improvements and new features are in.

After you've updated, send me your npub and I will add you to our main White Noise community chat.
Since we've increased the maximum number of members in a group from around 50 to around 200, we will consolidate our multiple White Noise community groups and get one to be as large as possible to test it out.

So send me your White Noise npubs and I will add you. Let's see at what scale it breaks next.

@White Noise desktop now runs on OpenBSD

Next @White Noise release will increase maximum group members from 50 to 200.

And we still haven't worked on scale properly. We'll get that higher!

Pro tip for @GrapheneOS

Prevent random apps from getting your clipboard automatically when they're in the foreground.

Settings > Security & Privacy > Privacy Controls > Clipboard Access > Default access for third party apps > Paste only

If you want a masters degree from a university that's not useless, check out Hesperides.

A private university that goes to extreme lengths to not receive any money from the state, with a solid curriculum for both Austrian economics and Bitcoin.
I'll be teaching the masters on Bitcoin Privacy next semester.

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First successful messages between Scramble and @White Noise !

This is huge, because Scramble is a from the group up reimplementation of both MLS and Marmot in C#!

If @The Dude can build a fully independent marmot ecosystem that's interoperable with MDK (rust) & @White Noise, then so can you!!

https://github.com/DavidGershony/Scramble

New paper dropped.

Shielded Bitcoin
Anonymous bitcoin transactions without a fork or operator needed.

https://www.allocinit.xyz/uploads/shielded-bitcoin.pdf
https://allocinit.notion.site/Shielded-Bitcoin-Private-Transfers-on-Bitcoin-L1-3e436974087f80f586acf2462bc547a5

Fake news.

It used to be that engineers over estimate how fast they can ship something.

@JeffG said it'll take a week to build this complex piece.

Turns out it is done in about two days.

We'll get a major @White Noise release out much sooner! Hopefully tomorrow.

@MaxThe biggest pro@White Noise right now is inefficient processing of the group state and inefficient relay connections. You can think of white noise like the equivalent of a Bitcoin full note versus a bank account. Apps like Signal have the benefit of a central server that can offload a whole bunch of processing and therefore make it much more efficient on the client application. White noise is...

omg the next @Zapstore release is going to be 🔥

Just a casual 314x speed improvement to adding members to @White Noise groups incoming.

@Danny the Cyber Guy is a wizard.

Nostriches are the best.

Thanks to all the early @White Noise testers, the feedback and bug reports are the best!

That's why we released only on nostr.

The biggest pro@White Noise right now is inefficient processing of the group state and inefficient relay connections.

You can think of white noise like the equivalent of a Bitcoin full note versus a bank account. Apps like Signal have the benefit of a central server that can offload a whole bunch of processing and therefore make it much more efficient on the client application.

White noise is a local first convergence machine. So it has to do a whole bunch of processing to keep in sync with the group. This gets especially tricky when the app is closed or offline and has to catch up.

Currently it's designed so that it is very unlikely to fork the consensus, but at a huge computational cost.

What we're working on now is to massively improve the performance of our convergence state machine, and to also make our relay connections a whole lot smarter. This is a big undertaking and it will take us about a week of back end library development but expect a lot performance improvements and battery optimizations in the coming weeks.